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» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:25 -- Yeah, Lake Superior is a fantastic story for the pinks
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:24 -- Lake Superior is a different story re pinks
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:23 -- We cukld not get certified egss so it collapsed
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:22 -- Acttually they had a high return rate......... but low natural repro here
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:22 -- Big Grin
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:22 -- You musta taken the pic of the LMB............ smile
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:21 -- I don't think pinks were that well established in Lake O in the first place.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:21 -- No...hardly any pinks...but I think Chinooks will be OK...Cohos are limited...but yes, I do get your point.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:21 -- That was the fish I remembered.
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:20 -- Seen many pinks lately in Lake o?
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:20 -- http://www.luckylures.nl/largemouth_bass_record.php
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:20 -- BTW, the current tie for IGFA world record Largemouth Bass did come from Japan in 2009.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:18 -- But yes, much reduced.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:18 -- There is some natural reproduction. Some streams are actually around 50% from what I've read.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:18 -- Well, wouldn't say zip...but there will be a limited amount around.
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:17 -- works for me
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:17 -- If not assisted the Pacific Salmon population would spiral down to zip.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:17 -- I know Wink
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:16 -- I think you know that I'm not a big fan of Pacific Salmon other than there use to control the alewife problem long ago
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:14 -- That's why I kinda dislike all this talk about Pacific Salmon and Steelhead in the Great Lakes where they do not belong...and Brown Trout in our headwater streams where they do not belong...as much as I also appreciate the additional fishing opportunites...I just don't feel it is right for agencies to alter native ecosystems in the name of providing additional fishing opportunities.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:12 -- It is really, really sad to see.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:12 -- California is especially bad about introduction of non-native species for additional fishing opportunities. Their native fish species population is a mess...
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:10 -- Yes, the reputation is slowly changing...and management strategies is slowly changing.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:10 -- Until the day these agencies own up to their own mistakes about introducting those "native" species into their state waters, and address the harm their action has done on native species, they have ABSOLUTELY ZERO right to condemn other species.
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:09 -- I spent some time reading the "strategy" today...... things may be changing slowly.....
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:08 -- Fishery management is just biased and people have an unhealthy obsession on Largemouth Bass and Rainbow Trout (and Brown Trout)...and wrecking native fishery all in the name of passion and additional fishing opportunities.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:07 -- And if members are not aware, Largemouth Bass has the same reputation as Snakeheads in Japan...doing the same invasive damage to native Japanese species.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:06 -- The IGFA world record snakehead was caught in the Potomac. If an invasive Largemouth Bass that broke an IGFA world record in Japan, that Japanese body of water would receive a lot of fame and protection.
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:06 -- Agreed. Virginia itself has given up.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:05 -- I'm not advocating that we should spread snakehead everywhere...that's far from my position. At the same time, there is little we can do about the existing established population in the Potomac. They are not going anywhere anytime soon...so instead of trying to get rid of them, why no enjoy that world class snakehead fishery?
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:04 -- No seniors discount........... grin.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-15:03 -- You should go, OT. Bus ticket was only $70 return for my last trip. If you book in advance, you could do to DC for around $45 return. Or drive there with your sweetheart and sightsee in the US capital plus fish some for fantastic Snakeheads. Wink
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:03 -- However I also admit that I trust and believe in the MNR fisheries biologists who dont wnat them here. They are the experts not I.
» OldTimer - 16-05-15:00 -- I do find it interesting, and I must admit if I was in Virginia, Maryland or DC- I'd try em on for size.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:59 -- I'm sure you would find it interesting too, OT. It's just for discussion sake...like we've always done in respectful manners Smile
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:58 -- No buttons to be pushed. Just presenting some of what I know for member who may not be informed Wink
» OldTimer - 16-05-14:57 -- I can push buttons too I see.............smile.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:50 -- I don't say this as an opinion. I've read a lot of resources about Northern Snakeheads...including some published research and reports. I don't make this assessment up...it's based on existing research.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:49 -- They will not dominate the Potomac as everyone fears.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:49 -- And like my friend Pat believes, there are only so much habitat on the Potomac that is suitable for snakeheads...so it is the natural ecological limits that will limit snakehead population. Once the initial boom occurred there will be a bit of a crash before the population levels out.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:47 -- So as much as the media and public like to paint a severely negative image on the Snakeheads, they are not the evil people protray them. They do much less harm than other existing offenders in the Potomac.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:46 -- Blue Catfish dwells in deeper channels and their diet could affect channel dwelling species. There is fear that they can affect the already depleted shad and herring population.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:46 -- Meanwhile Largemouth Bass are more of a generalist predator...and juvenile snakeheads had been found in Largemouth Bass stomach content.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:45 -- Northern Snakehead's primary diet are Fundulus species (killifish)...with less than 5% being sunfish and white perch, and less than 1% being Laregemouth Bass. Snakeheads are NOT eating all the fish.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:44 -- An average Blue Catfish on the Potomac weights about 20lbs...an average Northern Snakehead that we observed weights about 6-7lbs.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:43 -- *harm
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:43 -- Instead, Virginia and Maryland now has a vendetta on snakehead because they fear snakehead would hard the native species...really? Those boneheads already messed it up enough.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:42 -- And who introduced the Largemouth Bass? The shortsighted Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fishery...you can also blame them for the other sunfish and catfish species...all in the name of providing additional fishery opportunity...while altering the native ecosystem of the Potomac.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:40 -- Largemouth Bass has a greater adaptability than snakehead, is currently in much greater number than the snakehead, has a much wider range than the snakehead, and had already done more harm on native species than the snakehead. Yet...becasue it is the almighty and revered Largemouth Bass, anglers want they around yet they want to kill every snakehead within sight.
» MuskieBait - 16-05-14:38 -- And people don't realize that offenders such are Largemouth Bass, several sunfish species incluidng Bluegills and Black Crappie, several catfish species including Channel Catfish, Blue Catfish and Flathead Catfish are NON-NATIVE to the Potomac...and they are invading and expanding their range just as badly as the snakeheads.

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