Possible Fishing Ban at Grenadier Pond

[Sailor Joe]

(02-20-2013 11:27 AM)MuskieBait Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:37 PM)Sailor Joe Wrote:  I'm fairly certain provincial laws exists. But this looks like a lack of enforcement problem. Some of the recommendations in the reports are ridiculous. Like having to ware your license around your neck. As if anyone can read from afar if it's a fake or not. Ludicrous. Just patrol and enforce.

Not really...

For quite a few years, California enforced the same regulation (wearing the license around your neck). It was actually a better system since Officers can quickly observe anglers from afar using binoculars for license compliance, and then watch the anglers from afar for any violations. In general, anglers were less "bothered" by Officers since there are less occasions where an Officer approach anglers to check for licenses, gear restriction and catches. It makes for a more "peaceful" experience.

They have changed that now, but some California anglers still wear their license around their neck as a habit.

I actually like that system...display your license...if it is not there, you're obviously either 1) forgot your license (which is a violation anyways since it ALWAYS has to be with you while you are fishing) or 2) fishing without a license. If you see someone fishing without a license displayed, you can then quickly call 222-TIPS to report the violation to the MNR. A regular citizen don't have the rights to ask to see someone's license...as such, the guy beside you could be fishing without a license. With a mandatory display of license, citizens can always call in violations, and maybe I'm optimistic about it, but it can help to reduce the incidence of people fishing without their licenses (as long as CO's respond to violations that were called in).

---

(02-19-2013 11:21 PM)Giuga10 Wrote:  This has been a long and heated discussion. I really hope they don't ban it but in the end it is the cities decision, hopefully fisherman can persuade them not to.

It's the fisherman who don't give a s**t, who are ruining it for all of us. The same guys who fish with two rods in the water and the same guys who throw their bags, cartons, and cans in the water, and the same guys who keep over the limit amount of fish, and the same guys who don't fish with a license and it's those same guys who don't care to admit and change what they are doing. I've made many of the mistakes listed above and more but I've learned to correct myself and stop before it becomes a habit and that's something we should all aim for.

Seems like those guys outnumber the good guys too, or maybe it's just the over the top "tree huggers" that blame many problems with water habitats on the fisherman. Some times I may be a tree hugger too but to blame it strictly on fisherman is a bit absurd.

Just sad.........

Sorry for the rant.... Just had to get it off my chest.

Violators are always more visible than law abiding citizens...but yes...without enforcement, such as the case for High Park, it does get out of hand and the number of violators seems to congregate there. It's such a shame.

How do you suppose binoculars are going to detect a fake or expired outdoors card from afar on a poacher? My eyes are not that good. If you are able to actually read the expiry date on the card or notice a fake card then I have to hand it to you, you are awesome! If you have eyes like me, you would have to make the effort anyway and approach the angler to visually confirm. So I don’t see how hanging your license around your neck prevents people from breaking the law in the first place. It’s just a nuisance to those who abide by the law.