You are not logged in or registered. Please login or register to use the full functionality of this board...

Post Reply 
Fish can not feel pain.
08-27-2013, 01:10 PM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2013 01:20 PM by ST_ShoreFisher.)
Post: #19
RE: Fish can not feel pain.
(08-23-2013 03:04 PM)OldTimer Wrote:  
(08-21-2013 03:14 PM)MuskieBait Wrote:  Plus, we're different from fish. Fish may tolerate the pain to actually eat to survive...we go fishing to get skunked FOR PLEASURE! Tongue

(08-23-2013 12:37 PM)ST_ShoreFisher Wrote:  i fish myself, but do not delude myself with things like 'fish feel no pain'.

Perhaps it is fishing we delude ourselves with...........

OT
HA!

(08-23-2013 02:48 PM)MuskieBait Wrote:  Eating things with spines does not necessarily means they do not feel pain...it just means their pain tolerance and their pain perception is different from ours...
Or it could mean what you said below, less nerves, thicker 'skin', etc.
I just find it funny that people can make blanket statements about this when researchers (who know way more about this stuff than anyone here) have such a hard time nailing this one down.

(08-23-2013 02:48 PM)MuskieBait Wrote:  It's like the difference between the bottom of your feet vs. your lips. The bottom of your feet has thicker skin layers and can tolerate heat and sharper objects much better than your lips.

Some areas of skin also have less neurons and pain receptors than others, so the reception and signaling of pain is much different than other more sensitive areas. Some people can put a needle through the first layer of their epidermis, but they can't do that for their lips.
ok, i can see your point. what i am saying is that i doubt anyone knows for sure whether or not fish feel pain, period.

(08-23-2013 02:48 PM)MuskieBait Wrote:  What I'm saying is that lip hooking a fish is different from lip hooking a person...as such, you can't assume it will register the same pain perception. Again, adaption and specialization of different part of the body by different animals allow them to do different things, and the pain perception cannot be generalized and assumed.

Like I said before...I've hooked fish 2 or 3 times on the same day before, even catching the same Rockbass 3 times on 5 consecutive casts! When a fish bites a bait, gets hooked, gets released, and then comes back to bite again, you have to question how much pain and that memory of pain the fish actually registered. If you shoot yourself in the leg, would you do it again so soon after?

Ever been icefishing and have a fish takes 2 or 3 baited lines at the same time? If a fish feels pain after getting hooked on the first line, what makes it take the second line when it should be running away from the painful experience? I'm not making any of this stuff up...I'm speaking from real experience. I've had pike took two lines, I've had lake trout took two lines.

I've had fish hooked, got off them hook, then the fish came back and took the same lure/bait again to be hooked a second time...Would you hook yourself in the lips once, pull the hook out, and then do it again?
never said i equated fish lips with human ones.

your experience is something that i've never heard of (fish continuing to get hooked after already hooked). this might be a big clue about the pain they suffer when hooked through the lips (not much pain if any at all). so I can see your point-of-view, and will now consider that a lot more than before.

I just think people like to dismiss things (fish pain, etc) as a way of sleeping better at night. Same thing applies when we hear about all the bad stuff that happens in our world; people tend to make up 'reasons' why such and such happened as a way to clear their conscience (those people always bomb each other, the mother shouldn't have let her kids near a pool unsupervised, etc). we do this even when the victims were not in any way at fault. a human instinct maybe.
Find all posts by this user
Add Thank You Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Messages In This Thread
Fish can not feel pain. - tangledline - 01-13-2013, 11:22 AM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - Giuga10 - 01-13-2013, 12:25 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - jedisoccer - 01-13-2013, 05:22 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - tangledline - 01-13-2013, 11:02 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - Giuga10 - 01-13-2013, 11:35 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - MikeH - 01-14-2013, 12:02 AM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - rich_ace_G - 01-15-2013, 11:37 AM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - kevintorcan - 08-21-2013, 11:15 AM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - MuskieBait - 08-21-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - OldTimer - 08-21-2013, 03:01 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - MuskieBait - 08-21-2013, 03:14 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - MuskieBait - 08-21-2013, 08:43 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - fishfight - 08-22-2013, 02:50 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - MuskieBait - 08-23-2013, 02:48 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - OldTimer - 08-23-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - ST_ShoreFisher - 08-27-2013 01:10 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - OldTimer - 08-27-2013, 04:04 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - OldTimer - 08-30-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - ATF - 09-03-2013, 10:38 AM
RE: Fish can not feel pain. - shawarma - 09-03-2013, 02:10 PM

Related Threads
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Dead Fish found on shore! Extremely Pissed off ! Johnnyfishing 5 3,177 03-21-2019 09:54 PM
Last Post: Thebassmaster
  Fish ID help cutuzov 14 4,226 03-21-2019 09:53 PM
Last Post: Thebassmaster
  How do I know if there are fish where I'm fishing? Doorhandle 5 3,043 03-21-2019 09:52 PM
Last Post: Thebassmaster
  Bait fish Fish_catcher 1 1,306 09-19-2018 01:02 AM
Last Post: Roxy
  Fish identification Fish_catcher 9 2,374 09-08-2018 10:48 PM
Last Post: Joeyu
  Anything but fish picture cutuzov 1 893 07-10-2018 01:51 AM
Last Post: wknd outdoorsman
  Anyone ever fish Thanet Lake in Marmora? Viperblue4444 0 2,209 07-14-2017 12:55 PM
Last Post: Viperblue4444
Video Eagle took my fish Tomasz Burlaga 2 1,317 04-14-2017 12:14 PM
Last Post: Mdt
Video 4 year old's first fish (26 inch Walleye) Tomasz Burlaga 0 1,064 02-07-2017 03:01 PM
Last Post: Tomasz Burlaga
  Best Day on the Water that I did not catch a Fish zippyFX 1 1,303 10-20-2016 01:34 PM
Last Post: MuskieBait

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread:
4 Guest(s)

[-]
Shout: -
Options
Loading...
Smilies
Popup Shoutbox

Return to TopReturn to Content