2 Asian carp found in ponds near Toronto waterfront

[OldTimer]

(07-29-2015 05:04 PM)MuskieBait Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 01:52 PM)OldTimer Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 11:44 AM)MuskieBait Wrote:  I worry about them much less than Silver and Bighead Carp though. Grass Carp doesn't do as much damage and they are not even as terrible as Common Carp in my mind.

I suppose that bad things can have "levels". But at the end of the day - all are still bad - and unwanted by every jurisdiction in North America.


Cheers,

OldTimer

Never said they are not bad...and didn't say I'm not worried...but I'm just saying I don't think they are as terrible as Common Carp. You seemed to enjoy catching Common Carp. They save a few slow fishing days for you, didn't they?

I think they will compete for the same niche as Common Carp...and each species will keep the other population in balance. I don't think we'll suddenly see Grass Carp take over everywhere and replace every Ontario fish or destroy every last piece of habitat...something that the fear mongering media like to portray.

Let's worry about development of habitat into concrete jungles (creating run-off and preventing seepage into aquifers), unregulated agricultural practices (leaching sewage, fertilizer and pesticides), and input of chemicals, pharmaceuticals and microplastics into our water systems. Those are the real threat to our ecosystems.

But of course, it is easier to blame an invasive species rather than seeking government to enact new laws or ENFORCE them to protect the environment. Just like asking Mr. Harper to bring back The Fishery Act so critical fish habitat will not be destroy in the name of building a pipeline.

Honestly...where is our real battle? Have Round Goby, Rudd, Ruffe and Zebra Mussel completely decimated our fishery? As any Lake Erie or Lake Simcoe angler and they may have varying opinion...

Are invasive species to blame for the toxic blue green algae bloom currently occurring in western Lake Erie? I wonder what kills more wildlife and fish...Round Goby or a blue green algae bloom? I wonder what we should really be putting our focus on...

I do enjoy catching Common Carp and imagine I’ll be able to continue in that as the condition is not reversible. I cannot remember a time without them being present in Southern Ontario. But I do think that perhaps things were better before they arrived? Furthermore - I do not wish to see them spread elsewhere in the province/country.

Every problem or concern you mention is due to “our” collective greed, misguided shortcutting and self important conceited desires. Leaders now can only react to the long dwelling and swelling negative actions of the past populations. Blaming specific present persons is ridiculous – they follow the lead and wants of the collective “mob”. Blame the “mob” – aka “us”. As I type I believe that future Canadians will suffer under conditions resulting from actions and processes both you and I naively support presently.

I might also mention that a 40 pound fish is more than just a few weeks old. That fish has been in Lake O MANY years. Which raindrop will they catch?

Cheers,

OldTimer